How Two Business Besties Created a Business Together From A Shared Passion

Episode 2

Join me as I chat with Bri, my co-founder of Untethered Moment.um, to share the exciting story of how we discovered our shared vision and decided to start a new business venture together.

Whether you’re considering a new partnership or just love a good entrepreneurial story, this episode shares the raw experiences of two women chasing their dreams together.

Tune in to hear how we turned our shared vision into a brand-new business adventure and what we hope to come.

 
 
  • Welcome to Untethered Moment.um, the podcast where we dive into the inspiring stories of women entrepreneurs who are breaking barriers, overcoming fears, and stepping into their full potential.

    I'm Leah, your host and fellow entrepreneur.

    Whether you're just starting out, you're making a change or taking your business to new heights, this podcast is for you.

    In each episode, we'll share raw authentic conversations with some amazing women who have faced pivotal moments in their lives and businesses.

    You'll hear stories of courage, resilience, and the messy, imperfect actions that led to incredible successes.

    Our goal is to create a supportive and uplifting space where we can learn from each other, embrace our vulnerabilities, and find the courage to move forward, untethered and unstoppable.

    So come sit down, stay awhile, and let's become business besties.

    And I'm Bri.

    We are Untethered Moment.um, and we're excited to have you here.

    So Bri, I just wanted to get started with chatting a little bit about our history and how we met.

    I don't know if you wanna take over?

    Sounds good.

    Well, we met about four and a half years ago, maybe a little bit more closer to five.

    We were both friends connected with a mutual connection.

    I was freelancing for this person, and you had a relationship with this person, I believe, through church?

    No, actually, I don't even know how I met her, but we were mutually connected regardless.

    Mutual connection, yep.

    And she knew that both of us were going into the wedding industry and connected us.

    And from there, we started, I believe we kind of jumped in right away with that style shoot that we did.

    Well, remember, we were gonna do one in the spring, and then that big thing happened in 2020.

    Yes, the thing that we're not mentioning anymore yet.

    Yep, so that happened, and then we're like, okay, let's put a pause on it, and let's do a shoot in the fall.

    Maybe let's chat a little bit about that experience.

    Oh my gosh.

    So being in, so the businesses, so like my first business and current business that I also own outside of Untethered Momentum is a wedding planning, floral business, but at the time it was solely wedding planning and coordinating, and you had your decorating business and design, and we had jumped into, well, we are brand new in the industry.

    We need to make a name for ourselves.

    We need people to know who we are, what we can do.

    And it turned into, let's create a style shoot.

    Well, that style shoot, we couldn't decide on one specific style or what we wanted to do.

    So, you know, our crazy asses literally decided, well, why don't we just do them all?

    Yeah.

    How many do we have, like four?

    We had barn, lake, two, it was four or five different setups.

    And for people that don't know style shoots, a style shoot is essentially a mini wedding version of what we're setting up.

    So we're showcasing what your tables look like, what the couple can look like, different kinds of styles, like photos you can take with your photographers, new artistic things that you can do.

    We had to hire or get a photographer for this.

    We had to get a floral and different floral for each area because they were all different designs.

    We had the pinks and the orange and the moody and the vintages.

    We had the neutral.

    Yeah, and the neutral.

    Yeah, that was wild.

    And what was it like 95 degrees?

    It was like what it was on Sunday the other day.

    It was like 95 degrees, straight sun, pretty high humidity.

    I mean, most people are like, you're doing what?

    Okay, good luck.

    And you and I were just like, yeah, we got this.

    It'll be totally easy.

    And then we showed up the day of and did everything.

    Everything went off without a hitch.

    It was great.

    Oh, we also added in a virtual wedding fair that day.

    So while the shoots were going on, the photographers were taking their shoots or their shots, we were also running a virtual wedding fair.

    I believe it was through a Facebook event group, and had vendors popping on live every so often and answering questions and doing all the things because we couldn't have anything in person.

    Yeah, that was a wild day.

    But like, I feel like that was the launch pad of both of our businesses because we had so much content.

    Yeah.

    Like, there was so many photos from that day.

    So like, thank you to everyone who was involved in that, first of all.

    I know.

    I seriously still use some of those pictures.

    I'm like, I just am in love with so many of these pictures that they just need to like get re-put on the feed.

    Like, people need to love these again.

    Let's see them again.

    Yeah, that was wild.

    Yeah, and so then like over the next like four years, we worked together on different styled shoots.

    I invited you into my very first Galentine's brunch, and you helped with a lot of the planning at the end of that.

    And then I feel like we just kind of like kept liking working with each other.

    Yeah.

    Yeah, it was easy.

    A lot of clients I would bring in, you know, that wanted rental.

    I was like, oh, you have to go talk to Leah.

    She's got the best stuff.

    And we worked together with, you know, my clients with their weddings and their events.

    And then, yeah, it just kind of kept snowballing from there.

    The gown was a huge thing that we, you know, we did.

    And then we're like, we should just do this every year.

    This is super fun.

    So we did it again this year, and that went a lot better.

    We doubled our, you know, guest count, and we definitely felt a lot more organized thanks to you.

    Because, like I said, you came in at the last minute or like the end of like the planning when I had it.

    And I'm not a planner.

    So like kudos to you because you were just brilliant at it.

    And I just, yeah, that's your space for sure.

    Yeah.

    So then let's talk a little bit about like how Untethered became, you know, into this conversation and like how that started between you and I.

    Yeah.

    So I was, I mean, as people know, businesses change, they evolve.

    There's pivot points.

    I mean, it's never going to be exactly the same moving forward.

    There's always going to be something that you have to consider, look at.

    I mean, you might not even be in the market of, you know, selling a business or pivoting completely or changing the vibe or what you're offering for your business.

    But it was one of those conversations where you were looking to sell your business.

    I was looking to see, you know, what next steps the event company could do.

    What could we bring on?

    How do we grow?

    And one of those things was, you know, do I just absorb your business?

    Because it is in the wedding industry.

    It makes sense.

    We have a small inventory already.

    You know, what does that look like in terms of financial decisions, bringing on more of my team, all of those kind of things.

    It came to be that it just wasn't the right fit and the right time for absorbing that business, but it opened the door to figuring out between you and I that we had very, very similar wants and drives and desires for our lives and what that looked like as a business or creating a business or growing businesses.

    And then from there, I mean, you know, I think you and I both kind of had that light bulb moment where it was, you know, we both saw it in each other's faces because we were chatting and it was just like, wait a second, this seems too good to be true, to not like go into it more.

    Yeah, well, I actually have the notebook in front of me that I was taking notes during that video call we had.

    And I was writing down your future wants in a business.

    And I was writing them down.

    And as you were writing, as I was writing them down, I was marking out exactly like the ones that I was going to do too.

    And I'm like, wait a second, we both want the same thing.

    Yeah, like it just clicked in that moment of like, all right, well, why don't we do this together?

    Like, are we doing this together?

    And it's just like, how many conversations do we have after that?

    Like, this was March 14th that we initially had that first call.

    And I know like we got a little bit busy, but we were like, okay, we're super excited about this.

    And I mean, I have pages and pages of notes from our conversations of, you know, when we first got started with the idea.

    Yeah.

    And then launching two months later, like there was a lot of things that happened and had to happen between those two months.

    I don't know if you want to talk a little bit about that of like how you felt in those two months leading up to the launch.

    Honestly, it just kind of felt like all over tingly good is like really the only thing I can explain it.

    It was just like one of those things.

    I mean, you and I have had this conversation multiple times of like when we both align, our bodies very much reciprocate the feeling.

    So it's like in my specific, like I'm getting it right now, just talking about it, like remembering the feelings, but I get like almost goosebumps, but not like full goosebumps when I'm cold.

    It's more of like the tingly sensation under my skin.

    That's like, hey, listen to your body, listen to what's going on.

    This is good.

    I listen to my body a lot with intuition for things like that.

    And that was just, it kept happening when we were talking.

    And I'm like, okay, this is gold.

    This is something's happening.

    Something's positive and something's, you know, in the universe that's creating this like, hey, yes, move forward, do the damn thing.

    And it just, it felt right.

    It felt like the next step.

    It felt like this is how I get to what I want my life to be.

    What I want my life to look like, what I want my businesses to look like.

    And it just kind of felt like a no-brainer.

    Even explaining it to my husband most of the time, he looks at me like, okay, what, what are we, what are we doing now?

    Because I have a bunch of ideas all the time.

    I always throw, like throw them to him to see, like if they bounce off or if they're just going to like fall flat.

    And most of the time they fall flat.

    But this one, he was like, yeah, that makes sense.

    I get it.

    I understand like where you guys are going, what you're trying to do.

    And I was like, really?

    So if you think that this sounds like a decent enough thing to like understand it right away, because most of the things I'll throw at him, he's like, I don't get it.

    No.

    Which is totally fine because I'm the dreamer of the relationship.

    And he's like, Bri, we need to come back on reality a little bit.

    But this one, he was like, yeah, that makes sense.

    And I was like, it's settled.

    If the universe is telling me with my tingles, my husband gets it right away.

    And I feel like what I really enjoyed about the process of creating a business with you is every single conversation we had, there was just like more clarity being unlocked.

    And it just snowballed over and over and over again where I felt like, oh yeah, oh yeah, oh yeah.

    Like this is like, it just kept coming to me and coming to you as like ideas, as we're like diving deeper and like peeling back the layers of what this business can be and what it absolutely will be in the future.

    But even just like as the bare bones of like what we're doing in this first initial phase of launching and like how it's going to grow.

    And like it was just really cool to like watch that unfold and just like constant clarity throughout the entire start to finish.

    And not to say like there wasn't any doubts that came up because I am like a self-critic constantly of like, you know, foster syndrome is real and it like definitely showed up, especially like in our first meeting.

    Like I was so excited about this.

    You know, we got the website launched.

    It looked beautiful.

    And then we got the first meeting on the books and like, what was it?

    The day before the meeting?

    I was like texting them like we failed.

    This sucks.

    There's only like three people that signed up.

    And I was just like really hard on myself, particularly of just like feeling like that wasn't good enough.

    I don't know if you want to speak to that because you did pour into me at that moment that I really did appreciate.

    Yeah, I mean, even like kind of going back a little bit about just the conversations leading up to our first meeting and then kind of with the imposter syndrome creeping in, it was one of those things where there were moments where we're like, okay, we got stuck on, you know, ABC thing, like whatever it was.

    And we would just kind of have our moment of like, okay, what do we do?

    We had both thought about it individually by ourselves, you know, in our own lives, whatever.

    And then we would get in our meetings and it was, let's riff on it.

    And you were very, you're always good at like, Bri, let's just riff on it.

    Because I would just get stuck.

    And I'm like, I don't know what to do.

    And you're like, well, you and I are just going to riff.

    And some of those riffs, we would just sit there and there wouldn't be a whole lot of like conversation.

    It would just be like little statements or words to get the other person's brain going.

    And then one person would trigger something else, and then that would trigger.

    And then all of a sudden, it was like this huge snowball.

    It was like, okay, this is how we do XYZ.

    Like it was just so clear, like you mentioned earlier.

    And all those conversations, all those riff meetings, like everything that we did, it just clicked.

    And it just made sense with even getting through things that we were both like, I don't know how this is going to work.

    I don't know what to do with this.

    Like, how do we build that?

    How do we grow that?

    How do we do whatever?

    And it was, how do we word something?

    And it was just came into, we couldn't think of one word, and all of a sudden we had a whole paragraph.

    So that was always really nice with our conversations and continued our conversations always.

    We start them with like, hear our thoughts.

    And then by the end of the meeting, it's like we have a renewed...

    Yes, we have pages of ideas.

    We have pages of thoughts.

    We have pages of like next steps.

    But I don't think we're going to be bored anytime soon, which is great.

    No, I don't think so either.

    I forgot what else I was supposed to touch.

    Oh, no, it was just more still like, yeah, the imposter syndrome of like how I was feeling.

    Because I'm typically a positive person.

    I'm almost like, I would say naive in a sense of like, what could actually come to fruition.

    But then when it doesn't happen, that's when I get self-critical of like, oh crap, I failed, you know, and it was like literally month one.

    Yeah, and I mean, I remember too, like I know we both were shooting for the moon.

    We're like, we're going to have 30 people right away.

    It's going to be great.

    We're going to have, you know, three different breakouts.

    We're going to do this.

    We're going to do that.

    And then, you know, reality hit, and we nobody knows who we are yet.

    And I think it was just one of those things where I was like, okay, well, we have three people.

    That's three more people than we would have had two months ago.

    So and I just kind of had this moment of like, you have three people.

    Move that.

    Let's go.

    And then when you were like, we need more.

    We need to do something.

    I'm like, no, three people is a good starting point.

    Yes, we both wanted 30.

    But taking a step back and looking at it, I was like, okay, we can manage three people.

    We can manage a meeting.

    These are brand new to us.

    I think looking back, if we would have had 30 people, I probably would have shit my pants that morning.

    I would have been like, what did we do?

    I know we would have been fine, but I would have been like, oh my God, this is going to flop.

    I would have had the imposter syndrome that morning.

    But it turned out to be great, and honestly, it's been a steady climb since.

    As much as we both really want the huge jump in people coming to the meetings and membership and all the things that come with business, I like that it's just slowly growing and gaining that momentum, because watch out for the snowball, because it's going to be unstoppable.

    Well, I guess it is in our name, momentum.

    Right?

    So we have to take our own advice, speaking to myself, of just being able to take the small things that stack, because over and over again, it's going to just keep getting bigger and better and more refined.

    And I'm just excited to watch that growth.

    So I don't know if you want to talk a little bit about who you think that this business is created for.

    Sure.

    And then, yeah, then we can jump into your thoughts on that too.

    I kind of see Untethered Momentum being more of a landing pad for people who want to be unique and live and grow and breathe in their uniqueness, but also not have to struggle and flop when it comes to business.

    I feel like growing and building a business, they, and I say they just like in general of the world, especially with being a woman owned business, I feel like you have a lot more of an uphill battle when it comes to getting your name out there, getting certain things to go through for you when it comes to like, how do I do this?

    How do I create XYZ?

    Because as women, I feel like we have way more of a unique sense of what needs to be created.

    And that can be in literally any industry.

    And I feel like a lot of industries that women are now creating businesses for, you know, in financial, in law type businesses, in creative, in, I mean, you name it, a lot of them, creative not necessarily, but a lot of businesses are male dominated.

    So having a woman come in as a new business owner, as a brand new business, and then having the ideas that she has, I feel like that just turns into an uphill battle.

    And I want to be that landing pad for people to like, I'm doing this, I would like to have a community of like minded people who are creative in the fact that they're doing their own thing with their business.

    It doesn't necessarily have to be like creative, like making something specifically, but like creative in the fact that they have a unique take on what their business should be.

    And it doesn't fit in the proverbial box of, I'm in the financial industry, so I have to do it this way.

    Or I am in insurance, so I have to do it this way.

    Like I want to be that backing for those women to be like, I can do whatever the hell I want to do.

    I can do it the way I want to do it.

    And I have an entire community supporting me for those days that I do have imposter syndrome because we do have it.

    Everybody has it.

    I mean, male, female, young, old, whatever.

    Everybody has it at some point.

    And I want to make sure that people feel like they have somebody to turn to because you and I had each other, which I think was very helpful when we were starting, but we were also brand new in business.

    So I think us both being naΓ―ve with business was nice because we felt very comfortable talking to each other, but I want to be the business that you find your business bestie, or you find other people that you can bounce ideas off of, or just frankly say, am I being too optimistic?

    Am I not being realistic?

    Shoot me the straight truth.

    Be the mirror that I need, and be comfortable doing it without it turning into a they're going to judge me, they're going to say this, they're going to say that, which kind of comes with most things these days with internet stalking and the bullies on internet.

    I feel like it just turns into one of those things where it's like, I can't ask this question, I don't want to look stupid because I don't want to see the comments, or I don't want to be perceived as an idiot in business.

    So I want to make sure that people feel like they can come to us, be that idiot, because I've been there.

    I've asked questions, after it comes out of my mouth, I'm like, did I really just ask that?

    But I want to be able to have people ask questions like that with our community, and then be able to thrive from there.

    Actually, we've even seen that in our meetings.

    We have one of the gals who is not afraid at all to ask a question.

    And she does preface it like, oh, this is a dumb question.

    We're like, no, no, no, there's no dumb question.

    And in those meetings, she'll get her answers at least somewhat answered, if not fully answered, or even just having the tools then to say, okay, this is how you move that forward, or this is what you need next.

    Definitely, I can see that being a huge attribute for this business.

    So, I mean, and with our meetings and things that you've seen from our conversations and our meetings, how do you feel about what type of person is coming in to be in Untethered as a member, as a person coming to a meeting one-off, not a member, or just even our events too, because our events are very much in the uplifting, having fun outside your typical networking type events as well.

    Yeah.

    Yeah.

    So for me, it's kind of a couple different things.

    So the first thing that comes to mind when I created this business, when we created this business, is I want to touch people that are similar to myself in terms of vulnerability.

    It has been probably my whole life story I've been really vulnerable with, and I've just known that it's connected me deeper with the people around me, no matter what I'm sharing.

    And so I just really want people to have a safe space for that.

    I want people to get real, get raw, like say, this is what I failed in.

    Like just, I hate the highlight reel.

    I hate constantly saying like, oh, this is what I'm successful at.

    This is my highs of my business.

    Like that's great for you, but like I want to know the real story of like how you got started, the pain, the crying, the tears at night, you know, like all of those different hardships that people go through, especially at the beginning stages of building a business or growing or shifting your business.

    I just wanted to create like this safe spot for people to just like be open.

    And like through those, like especially at the meetings, like you might not have like the answers when you're coming to the meeting, but if you're vulnerable, other people might have those answers for you, or maybe your story rings true to someone sitting next to you, and like they feel less alone because they're also going through it.

    And so like I just really want that for people in our community, but also like what you said, like I want the business besties, like where you can like get ideas off each other.

    You can, I don't know, just grow together.

    You can have people that are ahead of you.

    You can have people that are behind you, right next to you, but I just want people to grow together in some capacity.

    So that's definitely what I envision, who I'm attracting and who we're attracting in this business as well.

    Yeah, that's my point of view.

    I love it.

    And that's, I think, the best part about our business together is we have the very similar wants of what Untethered is going to be, but we also have the differences that we both want to pull in.

    And I feel like that is really nice with pulling in different types of business owners, different types of just minds, like how people think of things, because I feel like, I mean, you and I, if I even had these conversations, we're like, oh, I didn't even think about it that way.

    And all of a sudden, it just kind of opens the door, a light bulb moment for both, like one of us, whoever said it that way.

    And it's like, okay, well, yeah, good to know.

    I want to have, you know, and that happens to me.

    I have moments where I'll just be like so stuck on one thing, and then you'll say like, oh, what if we did it this way?

    I'm like, duh, why didn't we do it that way?

    Like that just makes so much more sense, and it would have saved, you know, a bunch of stress for the last half hour of me thinking of it.

    Yeah, I definitely feel like having people that are like different backgrounds of personality.

    I mean, different industries even.

    I feel like it's going to be a really cool thing to watch the crossover happen because obviously it's great to have like, oh, this business group is for people in the wedding industry.

    Those people are going to have really great conversations about the industry itself, but when you cross-reference different industries, you can pull ideas from each other and like, oh, I would have never thought to use that in finance.

    It's a really cool dynamic that we're building because women are women.

    We struggle with things no matter what industry we're in, and I feel like being able to pull ideas from each other is going to be huge.

    Well, I mean, even that, going off of your wedding industry example, if we just had wedding industry people in our community, we wouldn't be learning and growing in things like, what did we talk about last meeting, about finances, about we had a little conversation about legal things and where to find and who to talk to about legal things, and we wouldn't have the basis of growing in different aspects of our business that every single business needs, regardless of if it's in the wedding industry, in the financial industry, in the legal industry.

    Every business has to follow the rules that the state and the federal set.

    So how do we best prepare people for that?

    How do we learn and grow and to be more efficient with things that we have no expertise in?

    Because I'll be the first to admit, I am so dumb when it comes to accounting.

    And that's why I have a bookkeeper when it comes to my other business.

    I would just much rather have somebody as an expert, and I would much rather help other people to either get the software that they need or find a professional that helps them to manage something that they're just like, I don't want to do that.

    Yeah, and this is going to be a huge piece of it, too, is being able to give people resources.

    So we're building kind of a directory of sorts of people that we've met, we've vetted, we talk to, we're getting recommendations from, let's say, legal advice or, hey, this is a great financial advisor, or hey, this is a great social media person, or we want to build the directory of people so that people that plug into our membership, they're going to get all of these at the tips of their fingertips, basically, and just be able to just dive right in, especially at the beginning of their business.

    I wish I had that.

    I wish I had someone collecting me of like, hey, this is where you should go.

    This is who you should talk to.

    That's definitely a big piece of the puzzle that I was missing when I first got started.

    I even took a business, it was called Boutique in a Box, and it was geared towards building a boutique virtual or in person, like brick and mortar.

    But I customized it in how to grow just a business in general.

    So yes, it was great because I had more of a step-by-step of, like, who is my clientele?

    What am I doing to project future revenue and doing my avatars and getting that clear path of what I was looking for, who I was going after for clients, what I wanted out of the business, all those things.

    It was great.

    However, I still did not have the stepping stones of who do I talk to for legal contracts?

    Because you need contracts in the wedding industry.

    Would you talk about bookkeeping and counting with?

    So what do I do at the very beginning so that I'm set up for my taxes?

    Because I can tell you the first couple of years that I had to do taxes, I thought I lost a lot of hair from having babies.

    I would have pulled, if it wouldn't have hurt, I probably would have pulled my hair out legitimately.

    I despise taxes, and ever since getting a bookkeeper, I'm like, oh, I just got to pull this report, got to do that, got to do that, good to go.

    Here's to my tax account, and it's great.

    But I mean, yeah, I did not have the community or the resources or a directory by any means of who do I talk to that's not just going to scam me or sell me on something I really don't need, especially as a brand new business, and I don't have capital, I don't have extra money to throw around.

    So yeah, I think being able to help people in that aspect or even when they're looking to pivot, maybe they've been in business for 10 years and they're looking to pivot on something and they just don't have the resources that they're hoping.

    Well, now we have our directory, and now they do.

    Yeah, because even we were talking about bringing in an expert for how to hire and grow your team.

    And so resources like that that are tangible when you need them are going to live forever in our membership.

    Yeah, we're just super excited about that.

    So speaking of future, where do you see us going with this business?

    What are you excited about?

    Oh, my gosh.

    Are we no holds barred on what our dreams and aspirations are for this?

    I mean, go for it, girl.

    The biggest dream that we want, or well, that I specifically, I'll say me.

    I mean, I know that you and I are very much aligned on this, so I'm not too worried about that.

    But I mean, I think we want this to be a, especially a nationwide, if not a potential international type of community.

    We want to be able to have different hubs or chapters, if you will, with different community bases in different states, in different big cities.

    That way, people that are in Arizona, California, they can still be members, and then they can have their close-knit community of people around there.

    So we're looking big scale across the nation, potentially internationally.

    We're also looking at adding a ton of different events.

    We already have our events for the Minnesota.

    Obviously, we're both in Minnesota.

    But I mean, we have our monthly meetings.

    We'll have our quarterly workshops.

    We have our yearly conference.

    And then we have our even more fun things that are not specifically business related.

    But we have our Galentine's event.

    We're adding Friendsgiving in November, so that'll be super fun.

    We talked about adding retreats, so that's coming soon.

    But yeah, I mean, being able to do that in Minnesota, but then also being able to add those things in for our different hubs and having it be more accessible for people all over the country.

    And then, I mean, how fun would it be to be able to have a retreat in, like, Italy or Spain?

    Or, I mean, pulling in, I follow people in the wedding industry on Instagram that are in Spain and in France and in Italy, just because I get inspiration for Floral.

    And how are they doing things and what Australia is another big one.

    Like, what things are they seeing that we are maybe behind in, or maybe we're not doing, or maybe they're better, like with sustainability, for example.

    I do a lot of things from different vendors that are international versus just nation.

    So I think that would be amazing to be able to grow this thing to that level of, we can pull in thoughts and inspiration and expertise from women all over the world.

    I mean, sky's the limit.

    And I'm just going to ditto that because we are on the same page for sure.

    Yeah, I'm just so excited for all of that, what you just said.

    So what do you hope to gain as an individual from our new venture?

    I hope to gain, oh, that's a good question, Leah.

    I hope to gain more freedom in the fact of like what we actually want to do with our lives.

    I don't want it to be, I never want to have to go back to like the nine to five, if that makes sense.

    So my my individual goal for sure is never having to go back to the nine to five and working for somebody else.

    Like that is that turns me like heebie-jeebies immediately.

    To be completely honest, there's nothing wrong with it.

    It's just not for me.

    I'm just not cut from that cloth and that's fine.

    Other people are and that is that's good for them, too.

    I mean, it doesn't it just doesn't work for me.

    But as an individual, I would just want to be able to grow as a human in my humanity as well.

    So like being able to talk to people in different industries, in different parts of their lives, in different regions.

    And I mean, I just want to be able to grow as a human of understanding what somebody goes through, what their processes are, what issues they're facing, what concerns they have.

    Because I feel like the more I talk to women in our meetings, the more that you and I have conversations and think about things like how would this work?

    Does this make sense?

    Whatever it really makes me look at the world differently.

    And I want to be able to open my eyes to things that I'm just not maybe around or understand or grasp fully.

    I like to learn.

    I don't like to learn in the educational sense of you need to read a book and whatever.

    But if I find something I like, I'll read a book on it.

    I just don't want to be told to do it.

    If you see a pattern, I don't like being told that to do it all the time.

    But no, I mean, that's a big thing.

    I want to be present as a human.

    So if that makes sense, that was a really roundabout way of saying it.

    But I want to be a present human that's continuously learning and growing in my humanity.

    I love that.

    What about you?

    Yeah, for me, I mean, I agree with what you say.

    I want all of those things too.

    But for me personally, I want to be more intentional.

    I want to be more intentional with the relationships I have in my life, intentional with connecting with more people, because I feel like I'm an introverted extrovert.

    I really thrive in conversations with people that I know and trust.

    But when I get in front of, for example, when I used to have to network and go into a room full of people, I will stand against the wall.

    I am not intentional with conversation.

    I feel awkward.

    I'm like, please talk to me, because I don't want to talk to you first.

    So I want to be able to break out of that awkwardness or embarrassment, whatever that is, or maybe it's insecurity.

    I don't really know.

    I want to just develop myself into a more confident, intentional human, first and foremost, but then also the freedom aspect is a really, really big piece for me because on this 10 plus year entrepreneurial journey, I have had so many ups and downs and just a lot of stress, a lot of crying, a lot of like, what am I doing with my life?

    I don't want that anymore.

    I want to be very secure.

    I want to be able to create generational wealth, not only for myself, but my family, but also the people in our membership and our group and people that are surrounding us too.

    I want it for me and for you.

    I want to be able to give people something they're excited about and that can tap into and really just latch on and help grow their lives too.

    So I want to be intentional in just a lot of different ways.

    So yeah, that's definitely what I hope to gain.

    Can I ditto that onto mine too?

    For sure.

    Yeah, no.

    I'm just so glad that we got to jump on today and like introduce you and, you know, be able to dive deeper into what Untethered Momentum is.

    And I'm just really excited to see what this business will grow into.

    And I'm sure there will be shifts and changes.

    And I welcome that because with shifts and changes comes growth.

    And you know, as well as I do, growth is great.

    And I'm just really excited to see what we have coming.

    Change is great.

    Change, I mean, yeah, you're uncomfortable, but the after part of it is, I mean, people hate change, but they hate the first part of it, the after part of it.

    They're like, okay, that was actually awesome.

    I'm excited for all of that.

    Yeah.

    Well, good.

    Well, thank you so much for being here, guys.

    We are excited to chat more with you next time we're on.

    Yes.

    Talk to you guys soon.

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